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I'll go off tangent here but it's part of the story. So one day I'm in Paris
You know, I cannot bear
And funnily enough Callum, who's the engineer, he was halfway through mixing it before he realized he was mixing it.
For every award that's called out, and they'd obviously rehearsed the camera angles and these cameras come swooping in
I'd have done it a long time ago.
No, but like now, if you did that now.
You know, I felt I should have some kind of chorus.
It's got such a twang.
In the blink of an eye, just
It's got a mic stand in the middle of it, for a start.
Or like maybe...
And he's like, "Where'd you get 'em from?" I was like, "Well, Johnny Marr has got this place in Doncaster called Music Ground."
I've fucking rinsed that story for fucking years.
I can do covers, and you do them when you're doing sessions. They always want a cover now in your radio sessions. They say, "new and old one cover."
You've got to trust in your own instincts and you've got to be fearless and not fucking listen to anybody else. If you haven't got those things, you should be a professional songwriter.
Well, it's Mike Hill who sadly not with us anymore.
...ingredients you're taking from because you're a stadium rock band, blah blah blah.
Boss chromatic tuner on it, right?
This guitar's got the best tone
But it was instrumental. I remember they would always play on the Tuesday night, it was a local band night, so they'd rehearse on a Sunday.
Yeah, I just used that for...
A tiny bedroom of a tiny house on a council estate in Manchester.
And I was like, oh no way, actually.
I mean, maybe it's a thing I should look into, apart from Definitely Maybe.
I was like probably a little bit pissed off that I had to have something on stage
Everyone went on about the fucking sound and it was like
And now that you've mentioned that, now that I've had that thought, I'm getting fucking angry just thinking about these two guitars.
And I was like, there speaks a man who's never heard reggae.
Right, and I only play open chords. That's why I use a capo so much.
Out of negligence, they've been left somewhere or fucking...
A bit from this might add on to that and you might get a tune out of it.
I'd never had a Japanese meal before, ever in my life. And then I'm going for a Japanese meal with him.
And one by one they all kind of go to the Astoria and the Hammersmith Palais and they all go to the wall.
That's his guitar from The Queen is Dead, and I...
So it became my guitar,
Well, he's just a doddery old bloke now. Well, not on the... all right, well then I'd be living the day, the day that he landed on the f***ing moon, wouldn't I? I may be an astronaut, let me think now.
You know, I got like one of my lads, young lad, playing the guitar.
I take it as one period, you know what I mean, 'cause they were all written pretty much around the same time, and all around the world was written
Half of it I use for This is the Place, not the chorus.
Well you know our president is on Twitter quite... Well and so is my fucking brother. And quite literally...
Yeah, a bit like.. I was extremely happy, full of fried chicken and fizzy drinks.
Massive ten, twelve thousand space with nobody in it, just the best thing ever.
and everybody joined in and it was at that moment
Although Sarah was listening to it the other day and she said, "My god...
Should it ever go off. But she don't know where it is, you see.
It upstages Grimmett and sweating and like, it's impossible to actually play live.
A mission as a songwriter, and it was happening.
Yeah, I wouldn't really say it was wilderness years. I was happy, but...
Nothing is original, there's only twelve notes anyway.
And what I tend to do is write
Now, so what we're doing here is
With half the songs unfinished
Except me, and I wasn't even really sure.
And vice versa. And then there's the chosen few in the middle
We don't think anybody would be able to play it.
My fans, Leo is not a robot.
You know, you go to America and say, hey, why are you guys playing solid-body guitars? And we'd just be like...
Before he sang it and fell back in here, fucking absolute shit.
So again, I never played that much lead guitar, did I?
Yeah, but I'd live through him, so I'd know the training. What would yours be? Yours would be something stupid like Frankie Howard.
I was twenty years into it before I went middle.
What to use on the record. Like, forget it, we're not here.
I don't think I was ever interested
Oasis at that time
Radio X have asked me to come on to promote my latest, I mean I don't know why I'm promoting it because it's already been to number one, so frankly, who cares, right?
I wouldn't seem arrogant.
Was it ever used in anger?
Wow, and uh, well I gave me that for my 30th
And it took me ages to get into it. Whereas with Oasis I was over there in my own world and I was working that.
These Strymon stuff and these big pedals, I fucking love a preset.
That album had 11 songs on it. We must have done 30 pieces of music. There's a load still left over. I mean, there's stuff I'm finishing off now.
I remember going to the gig and I was more stressed out. I think in a way it benefited me because I was more stressed out about...
Well, I was listening to Fool's Gold the other day, wouldn't class that as indie music, but listened to that album all the way through. I've not listened to that album all the way through for years.
I didn't want to have to find another singer.
Um, from the Oasis days.
Then they're getting, and I can't give it to them, do you know what I mean? So it was a struggle initially.
Derek, well Derek, it depends what I'm playing.
I'll obsess about a song for years, and I'll rip it off twelve times. I'll get fucking twelve different tunes out of it.
If it sounds good...
I'd say a good hour.
That's not a hard and fast rule because
There was Oasis, The Verve, Pulp, Ocean Colour Scene, Manic Street Preachers, all in the top ten.
A semi-hollow guitar
Being asked about it, I'm just fucking right, you know what I mean. So they were vastly, they were the first two albums is that is.
You know, got on board with it. But I know what you mean, I won't sell that amount of records again. But saying that, I'm not going to sell... my first solo album sold a million records.
Gem would stand in for me, and he called me up once and he said,
I'd put the pair of them in a driverless car each so it fucking ran into each other.
Oasis were opening up for him, right?
Half a lager, didn't they? You know what I mean? And that's it.
Humility is a good thing to have, and I really, I have intended to find some at some point in my life, but I've yet to get around to that.
Yeah, I mean the record sounds just incredible.
It's better if it's all coming from the amp.
One of their tours, I didn't know him from Adam. And we got on straight away, you know, we liked the same kind of music, the Beatles and that, and it was him,
You can't do that. I can and I will and I have, and you'll buy it, so fuck off.
Because you're naturally speeding up.
So I often feel that people
Just the sound of the band. So you're at the mercy of the sound engineer.
And it didn't sound as good as his. And I said, "Borrow me that pedal while I go on tour." And he said, "Okay then."
Right, looking in the mirror going, where am I gonna fucking, is it there or is it there?
Come and have a jam with us down at, they were practicing in a place called The Red House. Come and have a jam with us, I was like, I can't be arsed.
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