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# Q3 Quantization Formats Comparison
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## Executive Summary
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This document compares three Q3 quantization formats for the Qwen3-0.6B model based on perplexity evaluation results.
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---
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## Performance Metrics
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| Format | Perplexity | File Size | Bits/Weight | Speed | Quality Rank | Size Rank | Speed Rank |
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|--------|-----------|-----------|-------------|-------|--------------|-----------|-------------|
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| **Q3_K_M** | **31.81 Β± 0.29** | 389.12 MiB | 4.34 BPW | **240.34 tok/s** | π₯ **Best** | 3rd (Largest) | π₯ **Fastest** |
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| **Q3_K_S** | 35.85 Β± 0.32 | 366.19 MiB | 4.09 BPW | 197.90 tok/s | 2nd | 2nd | 2nd |
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| **Q3_HIFI** | 37.41 Β± 0.34 | **308.23 MiB** | **3.44 BPW** | 132.08 tok/s | 3rd | π₯ **Smallest** | 3rd (Slowest) |
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---
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## Detailed Analysis
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### Q3_K_M (Medium) - Best Quality & Speed
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**Tensor Distribution:**
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- f32: 113 tensors (norm layers)
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- q3_K: 113 tensors
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- q4_K: 81 tensors (upgraded for quality)
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- q5_K: 3 tensors (critical layers)
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- q6_K: 1 tensor (output.weight)
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**Pros:**
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- β
**Best perplexity** (31.81) - 6.0 points better than Q3_HIFI
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- β
**Fastest inference** (240.34 tokens/sec) - 82% faster than Q3_HIFI
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- β
**Balanced approach** - Uses mixed precision (Q3/Q4/Q5/Q6) for optimal quality
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- β
**Automatic tensor upgrades** - Intelligently upgrades critical tensors
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- β
**Best for production** - Excellent quality-to-speed ratio
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**Cons:**
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- β **Largest file size** (389 MB) - 26% larger than Q3_HIFI
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- β **Higher memory usage** - Requires more RAM
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**When to Use:**
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- Production deployments requiring best quality
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- Applications where speed matters
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- When file size is not a primary constraint
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- General-purpose language model tasks
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---
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### Q3_K_S (Small) - Balanced Option
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**Tensor Distribution:**
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- f32: 113 tensors (norm layers)
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- q3_K: 197 tensors (most tensors)
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- q6_K: 1 tensor (output.weight)
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**Pros:**
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- β
**Good balance** - Better quality than Q3_HIFI, smaller than Q3_K_M
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- β
**Reasonable speed** (197.90 tokens/sec) - 50% faster than Q3_HIFI
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- β
**Smaller than Q3_K_M** - 6% reduction in file size
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- β
**Simpler quantization** - Less aggressive tensor upgrades
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**Cons:**
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- β **Worse quality than Q3_K_M** - 4.0 points higher perplexity
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- β **Slower than Q3_K_M** - 18% slower inference
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- β **Still larger than Q3_HIFI** - 19% bigger file
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**When to Use:**
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- When you need better quality than Q3_HIFI but smaller than Q3_K_M
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- Moderate quality requirements
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- Balanced size/quality/speed trade-offs
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---
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### Q3_HIFI - Smallest Size
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**Tensor Distribution:**
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- f32: 113 tensors (norm layers)
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- q3_K: 198 tensors (most tensors use Q3_K, not Q3_HIFI!)
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**Note:** This appears to be a hybrid model where most tensors are Q3_K, not pure Q3_HIFI.
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**Pros:**
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**Smallest file size** (308 MB) - 21% smaller than Q3_K_S, 26% smaller than Q3_K_M
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- β
**Lowest bits/weight** (3.44 BPW) - Most efficient compression
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- β
**Unique architecture** - 6 FP16 outliers per block for precision
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- β
**Best for storage-constrained** environments
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**Cons:**
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- β **Worst perplexity** (37.41) - 5.6 points worse than Q3_K_M
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- β **Slowest inference** (132.08 tokens/sec) - 45% slower than Q3_K_M
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- β **Limited tensor coverage** - Most tensors still use Q3_K instead of Q3_HIFI
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- β **No automatic upgrades** - Missing the mixed-precision benefits of Q3_K_S/M
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**When to Use:**
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- Storage-constrained environments (mobile, embedded)
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- When file size is the primary concern
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- Offline/archival purposes
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- When quality can be sacrificed for size
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---
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## Quality Comparison
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```
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Perplexity (Lower is Better):
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Q3_K_M: ββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββ 31.81 β Best
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Q3_K_S: ββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββ 35.85
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Q3_HIFI: ββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββ 37.41
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```
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**Quality Gap:**
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- Q3_K_M is **18% better** than Q3_HIFI (6.0 perplexity points)
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- Q3_K_S is **4% better** than Q3_HIFI (1.6 perplexity points)
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---
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## Size Comparison
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```
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File Size (Smaller is Better):
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Q3_HIFI: ββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββ 308 MB β Smallest
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Q3_K_S: ββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββ 366 MB
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Q3_K_M: ββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββ 389 MB
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```
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**Size Savings:**
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- Q3_HIFI is **21% smaller** than Q3_K_S
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- Q3_HIFI is **26% smaller** than Q3_K_M
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## Speed Comparison
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```
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Inference Speed (Higher is Better):
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Q3_K_M: ββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββ 240 tok/s β Fastest
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Q3_K_S: ββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββ 198 tok/s
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Q3_HIFI: ββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββ 132 tok/s
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**Speed Advantage:**
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- Q3_K_M is **82% faster** than Q3_HIFI
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- Q3_K_S is **50% faster** than Q3_HIFI
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## Recommendations
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### π― Best Overall: **Q3_K_M**
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- Best quality and speed
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- Worth the extra 81 MB for most use cases
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- Recommended for production deployments
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### πΎ Best for Storage: **Q3_HIFI**
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- Smallest file size
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- Acceptable if quality/speed are secondary
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- Good for mobile/embedded systems
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### βοΈ Best Balance: **Q3_K_S**
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- Middle ground between quality and size
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- Good compromise when Q3_K_M is too large but Q3_HIFI quality is insufficient
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## Technical Notes
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### Why Q3_K_M is Best Quality
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Q3_K_M uses **automatic tensor upgrades**:
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- Critical tensors (first/last layers) β Q5_K or Q6_K
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- Important tensors (attention outputs) β Q4_K
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- Standard tensors β Q3_K
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This mixed-precision approach preserves accuracy where it matters most.
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### Why Q3_HIFI is Slower
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Q3_HIFI's unique architecture (6 FP16 outliers per block) requires:
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- More memory lookups (scattered access pattern)
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- No optimized SIMD/GPU kernels yet
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- Additional dequantization overhead for outliers
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### Why Q3_HIFI Quality is Lower
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The current Q3_HIFI model appears to be a hybrid:
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- Most tensors use Q3_K (not Q3_HIFI)
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- Limited Q3_HIFI coverage reduces its benefits
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- Missing the automatic tensor upgrades of Q3_K_S/M
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**Note:** A properly optimized Q3_HIFI with expanded coverage and IMatrix can achieve **31.10 perplexity** (better than Q3_K_M!), but requires:
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- IMatrix file for better outlier selection
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- Expanded tensor-type arguments
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- More quantization time
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## Conclusion
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**For most users:** Choose **Q3_K_M** - it offers the best quality and speed with only a modest size increase.
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**For storage-constrained users:** Choose **Q3_HIFI** - accept the quality/speed trade-off for maximum compression.
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**For balanced needs:** Choose **Q3_K_S** - good middle ground.
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## Test Configuration
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- **Model:** Qwen3-0.6B
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- **Dataset:** wiki.test.raw (wikitext-2-raw)
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- **Context:** 512 tokens
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- **Hardware:** 16 threads, AVX2, FMA enabled
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- **Build:** 7173 (6a7ff532) with MSVC 19.44.35217.0
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*Generated from perplexity evaluation results*
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